why won't people accept section 8? Its deffinate rent in their pocket!
It seems like noone wants to accept section 8, I'm not dirty I keep my children and houseclean I just don't make enough money to be able to pay my rent without assistance. I don't get it...
As a single mother who is on Section 8 I'm quite offended by a number of these posts. It's unfair to make such generalizations about a group of people as a whole. It seems like a lot of people make assumptions without even knowing at all how the program works. Now, I'm certainly not an expert, but there are a few things I definitely know.
First of all, if the tenant doesn't pay their portion of the rent, they are out of the program. They cannot continue to receive assistance if they don't hold up their end. Second, there are codes for a reason; they don't want slum lords. The codes are not anything above and beyond what should already be in place for ANYtenant's safety. The inspector who inspects my apt checked to make sure it was electrically and structurally sound, that there was no lead paint, and that there were an adequate number of working fire alarms. The only thing my landlord had to do was replace a fire alarm because the living conditions were already up to par.
I think it's wrong to judge people who receive government assistance unless you know their story personally. Consider this: Someone is a single mother of 1 with no one to ask for help. She can't afford to finish school, so she works full time making $9/hr (min wage is $7.25 I believe). BEFORE taxes that's about $1440/mth. After taxes, prob not more than $1200. In order to work you have to pay for childcare ($550-$1000/mth depending on area). We'll say $700. Rent for a two bedroomapt excluding utilities costs a minimum of $600 for something that is just livable. We're already at negative $100 BEFORE food, vehicle gas, medical, and any other basic bills. Should this person just pitch a tent with their child in an underpass and call it a day?
Things happen in life regardless of whether or not we're ready. I'm very grateful for the help I've received; it has been a lifesaver. I won't need it soon, and I'll be glad to know my taxes could be helping someone else.
Well let me enlighten you since you are too simple-minded to understand. I am a single mother who works full-time. I also go to school. Oh yeah and I'm a landlord who gets screwed over everytime I rent out my apartments. And maybe you didn't do it but everytime it was someone on assistance. NEVER AGAIN. Guess what, It's NOT PERSONAL, ITS BUSINESS. So next time you wanna go on a rant about someone giving you a break, maybe you should learn to suck it up and get your act together. This is a tough world and landlords aren't all miraculously rich beings. You wanna compare sob stories, I will one up you everytime. Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge landlords and just realize your not the only one struggling, no one has ever helped me pay my rent and I spend my time handling my ownbusiness instead of whining and crying about it.
I understand your frustration I too have section 8 and I'm clean and take care of my place. I've put in ceiling fans, a chandelier, airconditioner,custom blinds,etc but not everyone is like you and I. I know a guy who owns apartments and from talking to him his tenants dont pay their portions of rent and they abuse his properties, he says he'll never rent to section 8tenants again. I wish I could find a bigger place but When I see Landlords who do accept it their places dont appeal to me at all, they're usually in a bad area high crime area.
I am a NJ landlord. This is an interesting topic, as for years I "didn't need to take" section 8, now referred to as "housing vouchers". Once a voucher is obtained by a tenant, they can usually take that voucher and transfer it from one HousingAuthority or issuing entity to another one.
It's based on eligibility.
Here's a few takes on this. Again, I'm a NJ landlord (7 units) single familyhomes. I also write on this topic for RentLaw.com The National LandlordTenant Guide. Here, there are EXCELLENT resources for landlords on the HQS (Housing Quality Standards) - what is expected of a home. These really aren't anything mind boggling - things a landlord SHOULD do to maintain their home.
So the landlord has to have a section 8 inspector come out and look over the house - make sure things are habitable. They may say you have to paint (even though you might of already did a top job paint with a high quality paint on not a whitewash..). I said fine - I'm not doing it - it's better and nice then my own house. They can find someplace else....
for 20 years I had "regular" tenants. Never a problem with the rent etc. Then all of a sudden, I got hit with late payments etc. I then accepted my first section 8tenant., 4 kids. The rent was $1550 month, plus they had to pay the utilities. Section 8 payment - $1300. Not bad. Tenant no problem paying. I now have 5 of 7 section 8. By the third of the month, I have around 90% of my rent, my mortgages are now current and my section 8tenants are good - very good at reminding me of the lease renewal (and inspection again). It makes you a good landlord - if you have good tenants - whether or not they are section 8. Many people here "section 8" and apply a racial profile. Well for me, I showed both african american and white and asian. Those that are with me are all white - some others finding homes elsewhere, some others complained they wanted the whole place carpeted - over newhardwood floors. Some people expect alot for $100 rent
1st level thing ive read about this in a long time...and FYI alot of section 8tenants work so that government money is part of their taxes too. There are lowlifes and deadbeats in every category. Thanks david.
This is the problem...what difference does it matter how much the tenant pays as long as all the rent is received!Landlords want to take that rent money from section 8 and treat you like a second class citizen because of your economic status!!!It all boils down to discrimination plain and simple!!!
Sound like "BS" all you care is for the rent. the goverment provides all your needs as long as you follow there rules. your bulldiing bring notting troble loud makers + lazy people +durg dealers Just saying the truth.
well the rent that you're getting is not 100.00 dollars,that just their half an i also believe if the carpet is dirty would you have want dirty carpet knowing ur kids will sit on the floor an watch t.v.theirs all kind of hiding bugs in dirty carpet,like.mites,bedbugs,etc.
I hatesection 8 people. I work 2 jobs and am of very modest income but the caliber of most section 8 people is extremely low. My once nice complex has taken in mental cases and dirt bags missing teeth, drug addicts and looney tunes and the rest of us have to take it or move. The care about nothing, don't work, abuse alcohol and drugs all day and don't have licenses or drive, except for the shopping carts and kids scooters they ride on all day and night. And speaking of night they are up and outside all night long smoking, causing problems and being pigs, littering and vandalizing paying tenants property because they have nothing themselves. I have rights too and if the government expects to place these wards of the state where I live than they had better be prepared to MONITOR them as well because I will sue them and the owner should my property get damaged anymore. Section 8 sucks. Bag groceries, get a job, get 2 jobs. Section 8 is another excuse to support the lazy!
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A SHAME HOW A PERSON SUCH AS YOURSELF CAN SAY THINGS LIKE "I HATE SECTION-8 PEOPLE". WHAT'S WRONG WITH BEING ON SECTION-8? AND WHY WOULD YOU SAY YOU HATE SECTION-8 PEOPLE? YOU SAY YOU WORK TWO JOBS AND HAVE A MODEST INCOME, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE FACTS ABOUT SECTION-8. THERE ARE PEOPLE ON SECTION-8 THAT DO HAVE JOBS AND ARE BUYING THEIR HOMES AND SOME RENT, SUCH AS MYSELF. I'M A SINGLE MOTHER WITH AN ADULT AUTISTIC SON AND A 14-YR OLD DAUGHTER. I'VE HAD JOBS IN THE PAST AND WAS INJURED ON THE LAST ONE. NO ONE CAN REALLY PREDICT YOUR FUTURE, IT COULD BE HERE TODAY AND GONE TOMMOROW, JUST LIKE YOUR JOBS AND "MODEST INCOME" AND I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD ASK FOR GOD'S FORGIVENESS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT RIGHT TO HATE, DIDN'T YOUR MOM TEACH YOU THAT IT IS WRONG TO HATE SOMEONE JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE RECEIVING SOME SORT OF HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT, I DON'T KNOW YOU, YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T SAY THINGS LIKE "I HATE SECTION-8 PEOPLE", BECAUSE MAYBE YOUR MOM AT ONE POINT IN HER LIFE RECEIVED FOOD STAMPS, OR MAYBE EVEN RECEIVED FUNDS FROM THE GOVERNMENT TO HELP WITH CHILD DAY CARE, WHILE SHE WENT TO WORK TO SUPPORT YOU AND OTHER SIBLINGS. YOU SHOULD REALLY WATCH WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE, BECAUSE MAYBE ONE DAY THEIR MISFORTUNES COULD BE YOUR MISFORTUNES. AND MENTALY ILL PEOPLE NEED SOMEPLACE TO LIVE ALSO, AND JUST BECAUSE A PERSON HAS MISSING TEETH DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE BAD PEOPLE AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, EVERYONE DESERVES A PLACE TO LIVE, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE THERE ARE? NIETHER DO I, BUT THERE ARE A LOT SOMEWHERE IN THE MILLIONS. AND HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE ALCOHOLIC OR DRUG ABUSER DON'T HAVE JOBS OR THAT A PERSON DON'T HAVE THEIR LICENSE, DID YOU ASK EACH AND EVERY PERSON THOSE QUESTIONS? I'M GOING TO ASSUME THE ANSWER AS TO BEING NO, AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE ALL THE SMOKING, VANDALISM, LOUDNOISES AND ALL OF THE OTHER GOINGS ON, THEN WHY DON'T YOU JUST MOVE OUT INTO A NICER AND MUCH MORE QUIETER PLACE THAT YOU THINK YOU DESERVE INSTEAD OF BEING INCONCIDERATE, MEAN, RUDE & SELFISH PERSON YOU ARE, BECAUSE AS I STATED I DO HAVE A SECTION-8 VOUCHER, BUT THERE'S ONE DIFFERENCE WITH MINES, MY VOUCHER CAME FROM GOD, AND I'AM BLESSED & GRATEFUL THAT HE CHOSE ME TO BLESS IT TO, AND SO WHEN I TELL PEOPLE OR PEOPLE ASK ME ABOUT MY SECTION-8 VOUCHER, I JUST TELL THEM GOD APPROVED ME. SO PLEASE STOP HATING PEOPLE ON SECTION-8, I'M NOT AT ALL LIKE THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU DESCRIBE IN YOUR POST, SO DO YOU HATE ME TOO?
Mary you are very ignorant, my husband is on Millitary section 8. This means my husband served this country your living in Mary with his life on the line. Millitary section 8 is one of the many benefits that he recieved for being an ex marine. We are not alcholics, drug users, dealers, missing teeth, dirty or nasty. We are very clean and Godly Christians! We both work full time jobs while raising four well mannered boys. So to Mary, Rick and the other ignorant people on here who do not know every one situation and just being judgemental on something you don't understand, Get A Clue!!
You don't understand nor care to understand. It's like saying blondes are stupid perhaps you are!! Born with a defect can't walk for long but I can, can't stand or sit for long in my younger years I did work. But now according to you instead of being one that needs help we should be boxed in a room or shot. Great country.
Section 8 allows families to be able to pay 30% of their income to rent unlike the 80% I pay. It allows them to afford to live; buy crazy things like food and clothing for their kids. Your rude and insensitive to the needs of others. Not all people are the scum you speak of. Most people I know on section 8 are long term tenants who take care of their homes---keeps their houseclean and maintained.
I work 9hrs a day and barely make enough to live. I would be extremely grateful to have section 8. Landlords should see Section 8 as a needed service to better the lives of others. I don't know where you live but those I know on Section 8 work. Not lazy.
Section 8 is another example of government waste that is ruining our economy by taking money from the producers of our society and giving it to those who have not earned it. If you cannot afford a certain place, look for a creative alternative you can afford, and keep your dignity.
Your a total idiot, its so sad people like you exist. maybe you haven't experienced enough hardships in your life, maybe you need to. Karma's a #@!&$ , they say. What goes around comes around loser.
If they destroy (learn to spell) HUD subsidized property and don't repair damages they lose their section 8 voucher. Don't be so discriminating. I rent through HUD (section 8) and I'm a very clean person thank you. Not goverment waste. It helps the poor, disabled and the elderly which someday you may experience.
My gf had section eight for ever. Her landlord loved her. When I found out about this section eight stuff, I bought a house and became her landlord.. Working out pretty good for us.. About to get another..
Clearly its wrong to judge everyone the same. My husband is an Iraqi Veteran and he was given section 8. I cannot tell you how difficult it has been to find an apt with Section 8. I dont think that it is fair to judge everyone the same because it is not accurate. I am a very clean, quiet person who takes care of all the apartments I have ever lived in prior to having Section 8. I thought having it would be a plus but it is really frustrating and difficult to find a nice place.
Most of the people I know on Section 8 are single moms who take care of their kids, hold down jobs and keep their homes clean. I'm not sure why all the haters but I think more landlords need to get involved with Section 8. Your rent is nearly guaranteed and your helping local familiesafford to live in their community. Don't be afraid.
Also, like anyone else, you can screen your tenant---get references etc...don't shut people out with general assumptions. Most moms care about keeping a roof over their families head and are not going to trash their home.
Although Section 8 is guaranteed payment from the government, it's not guaranteed that the tenant will pay their portion of the rent. Also, there are lots of codes and standards that the home must meet in order for the landlord to list the home on Section 8's approved list. If the landlord has to constantly make repairs to keep the house up to code, it may make him hesitant to accept Section 8. You can avoid this one way, by finding a home on Section 8 that totally covers the rent without any overages/differences you have to pay and make a separate agreement/lease amendment to repair any damages you or your kids make to the home not considered normal wear and tear that the landlord is responsible for repairing.
Although Section 8 is guaranteed payment from the government, it's not guaranteed that the tenant will pay their portion of the rent. Also, there are lots of codes and standards that the home must meet in order for the landlord to list the home on Section 8's approved list. If the landlord has to constantly make repairs to keep the house up to code, it may make him hesitant to accept Section 8. You can avoid this one way, by finding a home on Section 8 that totally covers the rent without any overages/differences you have to pay and make a separate agreement/lease amendment to repair any damages you or your kids make to the home not considered normal wear and tear that the landlord is responsible for repairing.
Although there are a good number of people who respect property, and several with jobs (Working Section 8 clients), the number of persons causing trouble have made many landlords balk at the idea of accepting the program. The program can drop a client, then, if they can't afford the rent, it can take MONTHS for the landlord to have them removed from the property.
The courts favor tenants in most cases, and, understandably, wish to afford them enough time to find alternate living arrangements. Unfortunately, many landlords cannot afford to be without this income during that time. Just imagine if you had to take a pay cut for 3 to 6 months!
If you dont pay your portion of the rent you are in violation of the lease, section 8 requires a 1yr lease, so then the tenant would be subject to eviction just like any one who didnt pay their rent. The section 8 program will not sign another lease with a renter if they owe past due rent to a landlord, untill it is paid in full, so a person would lose their rental assistance, and the waiting lists( if accepting names)takes 2-3 years AT LEAST to get on the program. There is no guaranty that anyone wont lose their job or get sick be in an accident or die, etc... so when I hear a landlord saying that a section 8tenant is a bad risk, it is obviously discrimination of someone just because they needed help due to a financial hardship.
why won't people accept section 8? Its deffinate rent in their pocket!
It seems like noone wants to accept section 8, I'm not dirty I keep my children and house clean I just don't make enough money to be able to pay my rent without assistance. I don't get it...You must have a HotPads account to post. If you already have an account, please login or create an account.
First of all, if the tenant doesn't pay their portion of the rent, they are out of the program. They cannot continue to receive assistance if they don't hold up their end. Second, there are codes for a reason; they don't want slum lords. The codes are not anything above and beyond what should already be in place for ANY tenant's safety. The inspector who inspects my apt checked to make sure it was electrically and structurally sound, that there was no lead paint, and that there were an adequate number of working fire alarms. The only thing my landlord had to do was replace a fire alarm because the living conditions were already up to par.
I think it's wrong to judge people who receive government assistance unless you know their story personally. Consider this: Someone is a single mother of 1 with no one to ask for help. She can't afford to finish school, so she works full time making $9/hr (min wage is $7.25 I believe). BEFORE taxes that's about $1440/mth. After taxes, prob not more than $1200. In order to work you have to pay for childcare ($550-$1000/mth depending on area). We'll say $700. Rent for a two bedroom apt excluding utilities costs a minimum of $600 for something that is just livable. We're already at negative $100 BEFORE food, vehicle gas, medical, and any other basic bills. Should this person just pitch a tent with their child in an underpass and call it a day?
Things happen in life regardless of whether or not we're ready. I'm very grateful for the help I've received; it has been a lifesaver. I won't need it soon, and I'll be glad to know my taxes could be helping someone else.
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It's based on eligibility.
Here's a few takes on this. Again, I'm a NJ landlord (7 units) single family homes. I also write on this topic for RentLaw.com The National Landlord Tenant Guide. Here, there are EXCELLENT resources for landlords on the HQS (Housing Quality Standards) - what is expected of a home. These really aren't anything mind boggling - things a landlord SHOULD do to maintain their home.
So the landlord has to have a section 8 inspector come out and look over the house - make sure things are habitable. They may say you have to paint (even though you might of already did a top job paint with a high quality paint on not a whitewash..). I said fine - I'm not doing it - it's better and nice then my own house. They can find someplace else....
for 20 years I had "regular" tenants. Never a problem with the rent etc. Then all of a sudden, I got hit with late payments etc. I then accepted my first section 8 tenant., 4 kids. The rent was $1550 month, plus they had to pay the utilities. Section 8 payment - $1300. Not bad. Tenant no problem paying. I now have 5 of 7 section 8. By the third of the month, I have around 90% of my rent, my mortgages are now current and my section 8 tenants are good - very good at reminding me of the lease renewal (and inspection again). It makes you a good landlord - if you have good tenants - whether or not they are section 8. Many people here "section 8" and apply a racial profile. Well for me, I showed both african american and white and asian. Those that are with me are all white - some others finding homes elsewhere, some others complained they wanted the whole place carpeted - over new hardwood floors. Some people expect alot for $100 rent
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Section 8 allows families to be able to pay 30% of their income to rent unlike the 80% I pay. It allows them to afford to live; buy crazy things like food and clothing for their kids. Your rude and insensitive to the needs of others. Not all people are the scum you speak of. Most people I know on section 8 are long term tenants who take care of their homes---keeps their house clean and maintained.
I work 9hrs a day and barely make enough to live. I would be extremely grateful to have section 8. Landlords should see Section 8 as a needed service to better the lives of others. I don't know where you live but those I know on Section 8 work. Not lazy.
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Most of the people I know on Section 8 are single moms who take care of their kids, hold down jobs and keep their homes clean. I'm not sure why all the haters but I think more landlords need to get involved with Section 8. Your rent is nearly guaranteed and your helping local families afford to live in their community. Don't be afraid.
Also, like anyone else, you can screen your tenant---get references etc...don't shut people out with general assumptions. Most moms care about keeping a roof over their families head and are not going to trash their home.
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The courts favor tenants in most cases, and, understandably, wish to afford them enough time to find alternate living arrangements. Unfortunately, many landlords cannot afford to be without this income during that time. Just imagine if you had to take a pay cut for 3 to 6 months!
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