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why won't people accept section 8? Its deffinate rent in their pocket!

It seems like noone wants to accept section 8, I'm not dirty I keep my children and house clean I just don't make enough money to be able to pay my rent without assistance. I don't get it...
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As a single mother who is on Section 8 I'm quite offended by a number of these posts. It's unfair to make such generalizations about a group of people as a whole. It seems like a lot of people make assumptions without even knowing at all how the program works. Now, I'm certainly not an expert, but there are a few things I definitely know.

First of all, if the tenant doesn't pay their portion of the rent, they are out of the program. They cannot continue to receive assistance if they don't hold up their end. Second, there are codes for a reason; they don't want slum lords. The codes are not anything above and beyond what should already be in place for ANY tenant's safety. The inspector who inspects my apt checked to make sure it was electrically and structurally sound, that there was no lead paint, and that there were an adequate number of working fire alarms. The only thing my landlord had to do was replace a fire alarm because the living conditions were already up to par.

I think it's wrong to judge people who receive government assistance unless you know their story personally. Consider this: Someone is a single mother of 1 with no one to ask for help. She can't afford to finish school, so she works full time making $9/hr (min wage is $7.25 I believe). BEFORE taxes that's about $1440/mth. After taxes, prob not more than $1200. In order to work you have to pay for childcare ($550-$1000/mth depending on area). We'll say $700. Rent for a two bedroom apt excluding utilities costs a minimum of $600 for something that is just livable. We're already at negative $100 BEFORE food, vehicle gas, medical, and any other basic bills. Should this person just pitch a tent with their child in an underpass and call it a day?

Things happen in life regardless of whether or not we're ready. I'm very grateful for the help I've received; it has been a lifesaver. I won't need it soon, and I'll be glad to know my taxes could be helping someone else.
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If you had a $150K + investment... You would be picky too. Learning from peoples experiences is enough to know section 8 is bad news. I invite You to buy Your own property, rent it and find out what happens... Then we can speak of generalities and perceived stereotypes.

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I AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT. I'M ON SECTION 8 TO WITH 4 KIDS AND I AM VERY CLEAN AND ALL I HEAR ARE LANDLORDS BASHING SECTION 8 TENANTS AND YES IT IS VERY HARD TO FIND LANDLORDS WHO WILL TAKE SECTION 8 BECAUSE LANDLORDS POST CRAP ONLINE IT'S TERRIBLE.

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Did you know that if you move out of your section 8 housing and you owe the landlord for damages you have to sign an agreement with him/her to repay in order for you to keep your section 8. However after you move out and get a good reference from the landlord (he will probably do this because he wants to recover money for the damages), all you have to do is tell section 8 that you are contesting the agreement to repay and you wont have to pay it back, and, you can keep your section 8. Of course the landlord can take you to small claims but hardly anyone does. This happened to me, a tenant caused $30,000 in damages and wouldn't even pay back $1,000 of it to me. Section 8 makes it sound so good if you rent to section 8 but if something goes wrong you are on your own pal, on your own and they wont give you the time of day. Your treated like dirt. So don't wonder to hard why section has a bad rap. Its not such a great deal for the homeowner. I know I sound nasty but I would love to someone like you and hope your make some homeowner very happy he chose you as I'm sure you can.

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Unfortunately, the GOOD people almost ALWAYS wind up with the BAD! And the BAD with the GOOD! Never GIVE UP on a WORTHY FAMILY OR TENANT. You never know when they'll come your way. Use better background checking systems coupled with wisdom and intuition.

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I am a NJ landlord. This is an interesting topic, as for years I "didn't need to take" section 8, now referred to as "housing vouchers". Once a voucher is obtained by a tenant, they can usually take that voucher and transfer it from one Housing Authority or issuing entity to another one.

It's based on eligibility.

Here's a few takes on this. Again, I'm a NJ landlord (7 units) single family homes. I also write on this topic for RentLaw.com The National Landlord Tenant Guide. Here, there are EXCELLENT resources for landlords on the HQS (Housing Quality Standards) - what is expected of a home. These really aren't anything mind boggling - things a landlord SHOULD do to maintain their home.

So the landlord has to have a section 8 inspector come out and look over the house - make sure things are habitable. They may say you have to paint (even though you might of already did a top job paint with a high quality paint on not a whitewash..). I said fine - I'm not doing it - it's better and nice then my own house. They can find someplace else....

for 20 years I had "regular" tenants. Never a problem with the rent etc. Then all of a sudden, I got hit with late payments etc. I then accepted my first section 8 tenant., 4 kids. The rent was $1550 month, plus they had to pay the utilities. Section 8 payment - $1300. Not bad. Tenant no problem paying. I now have 5 of 7 section 8. By the third of the month, I have around 90% of my rent, my mortgages are now current and my section 8 tenants are good - very good at reminding me of the lease renewal (and inspection again). It makes you a good landlord - if you have good tenants - whether or not they are section 8. Many people here "section 8" and apply a racial profile. Well for me, I showed both african american and white and asian. Those that are with me are all white - some others finding homes elsewhere, some others complained they wanted the whole place carpeted - over new hardwood floors. Some people expect alot for $100 rent

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I understand your frustration I too have section 8 and I'm clean and take care of my place. I've put in ceiling fans, a chandelier, airconditioner,custom blinds,etc but not everyone is like you and I. I know a guy who owns apartments and from talking to him his tenants dont pay their portions of rent and they abuse his properties, he says he'll never rent to section 8 tenants again. I wish I could find a bigger place but When I see Landlords who do accept it their places dont appeal to me at all, they're usually in a bad area high crime area.

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How discouraging and hateful these responses are. Section 8 allows people to be able to afford to live in their community. Instead of paying 80% of their income to rent like i do, those on section 8 pay 30% of their income allowing families to afford crazy stuff like food and clothing.

Most of the people I know on Section 8 are single moms who take care of their kids, hold down jobs and keep their homes clean. I'm not sure why all the haters but I think more landlords need to get involved with Section 8. Your rent is nearly guaranteed and your helping local families afford to live in their community. Don't be afraid.

Also, like anyone else, you can screen your tenant---get references etc...don't shut people out with general assumptions. Most moms care about keeping a roof over their families head and are not going to trash their home.

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Clearly its wrong to judge everyone the same. My husband is an Iraqi Veteran and he was given section 8. I cannot tell you how difficult it has been to find an apt with Section 8. I dont think that it is fair to judge everyone the same because it is not accurate. I am a very clean, quiet person who takes care of all the apartments I have ever lived in prior to having Section 8. I thought having it would be a plus but it is really frustrating and difficult to find a nice place.

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Although there are a good number of people who respect property, and several with jobs (Working Section 8 clients), the number of persons causing trouble have made many landlords balk at the idea of accepting the program. The program can drop a client, then, if they can't afford the rent, it can take MONTHS for the landlord to have them removed from the property.

The courts favor tenants in most cases, and, understandably, wish to afford them enough time to find alternate living arrangements. Unfortunately, many landlords cannot afford to be without this income during that time. Just imagine if you had to take a pay cut for 3 to 6 months!

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If you dont pay your portion of the rent you are in violation of the lease, section 8 requires a 1yr lease, so then the tenant would be subject to eviction just like any one who didnt pay their rent. The section 8 program will not sign another lease with a renter if they owe past due rent to a landlord, untill it is paid in full, so a person would lose their rental assistance, and the waiting lists( if accepting names)takes 2-3 years AT LEAST to get on the program. There is no guaranty that anyone wont lose their job or get sick be in an accident or die, etc... so when I hear a landlord saying that a section 8 tenant is a bad risk, it is obviously discrimination of someone just because they needed help due to a financial hardship.

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I'm a Section 8 recipient myself and I'm sorry to say that the majority of the hate here comments have some truth to them. I unknowingly moved into a Individually Owned Condo complex (ie. all the units were sold and are not run by a central office) that is almost entirely all Section 8. I have to say. . . I hate it here. I second the noise, the smoking, the trash and just the other day grafiti started showing up in this complex. The parents here are lousy and don't know how to keep a leash on their kids. Young thugs are popping up everywhere. I smell marijuana all over the place, I have people trying to stare me down. I thought I moved out of the ghetto only to move back into a ghetto complex in a choice community. I can see why some landlords raise the rent to ridiculous levels only expecting Section 8 recipients, because no one would pay for such low quality housing if its coming out of their own pocket.

I've spoken to four different landlords (those who were willing to talk) and they all had similar issues. Complaints from neighbors for the noise, bringing the wrong element to the communities, vandalism, and what most stood out was that tenants damage the units then expect to get their entire deposit back and a good number become belligerent and try to sue. This is what stood out from the conversations I've had with landlords and property management companies. It makes sense because who would not like to have guaranteed money from the government? unless the negatives far outweigh the positives. . .which is valid in this case.

However; thanks to the program I switched from one class a semester to 5 classes and have only one year left to transfer to a University and one year there to get my bachelors and get out of needing the program. My wife's income is enough to sustain us at this level, but honestly. . . I'd rather pay $1500 rent out of my own pocket then live as neighbors to other S8 recipients and pay only $500.

I speak from experience, but I apologize if I offended anyone. And now to keep searching for a home that would accept my voucher ;)

~Omar (Majoring in Biomedical Engineering Pre-Med, Section 8 Recipient for 11 months)

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Although Section 8 is guaranteed payment from the government, it's not guaranteed that the tenant will pay their portion of the rent. Also, there are lots of codes and standards that the home must meet in order for the landlord to list the home on Section 8's approved list. If the landlord has to constantly make repairs to keep the house up to code, it may make him hesitant to accept Section 8. You can avoid this one way, by finding a home on Section 8 that totally covers the rent without any overages/differences you have to pay and make a separate agreement/lease amendment to repair any damages you or your kids make to the home not considered normal wear and tear that the landlord is responsible for repairing.

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I am a section 8 client and in my area and in order to rent with out help I have to make 3 times and some applications say 4 times the rent. This is for places such as apts, duplexes and single family dwellings. Getting creative when you make less than $3,000 a month. What does "looking for a creative solution" @Rick Grubbs mean, is that being dishonest? Or does that mean work 3 jobs, or wait I know it must mean, "you should of not had kids you cannot afford"! To late I have the kids and guess what I don't make $8,500 a month and frankly I don't know anyone else that does in this area.

I am stuck between a rock and a hard spot cannot afford to rent on my own and I cannot find one homeowner to take section 8 in this area. It is so sad that owners are so selfish, I have an excellent rental history etc. I currently have been looking in the bay area for 7 months and have realized how these owners do not care, have no heart. What is even funny is that when the economy was failing these homeowners used to say section 8 helped them avoid foreclosure. Now that the economy is turning for the better these Landlords just turn their nose's up at the program using the sxcuse such as "Section 8 tenants are dirty". FYI 80% of section 8 clients due spoil it for the rest of these participants. But you will find some beautiful wonderful people that are in awful predicaments.

You now back in the 1970's a person making minimum wage could afford to buy a home and a car. The economy has turned all the owners of homes into greedy #@!&$%*#.

We that struggle maybe have a good reason for our struggle, example my daughter got cancer. God forbid that I quit my job to help her get through 3 years of treatments and what a menace I am to society; to actually have to rely on a program designed to help people like me. I hope not one of you have to go through the struggles I have had to go through.

I feel for the section 8 recipients I know while working for section 8 I have heard horror stories I know they need this program
and I am so supportive of this program. I see homeless people daily and they may never have a warm bed to crawl into at night. Be thankful you have what you have and don't kick a man while he is down.

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I AM RENTING A HOUSE IN MOUNT HOLLY NJ I WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM TO RENT TO A FAMILY IN SECTION 8. MY PHONE NUMBER IS 609-5295601. I HAVE A TREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH HOUSE,A FULL BASEMENT A BIG BACK YARD, DRIVE WAY CENTRAL AIR CONDITIONER AND MORE...NEAR THE SCHOOLS $1550. ANY QUESTION FEEL FREE TO CALL ME AT 609-529-5601

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We purchased a small 3/1 fixer-upper last month that we intend to retire to in about 5 years. We have been busting our butts to get it in good shape and make it beautiful. We have been getting to know the neighbors as they come over to check on our progress. They said that we would have no problem renting it out for more than we are planning to ask. We told them that we wanted to rent at a low price and to section 8 because we loved the idea of providing a nice place to poor people who could not otherwise afford one. Well, we were told that no one with a section 8 voucher would even look at our house because it had only one bathroom and is small.
I did little research and found that was true. I have always believed in helping those with less money but being told that my little gem of a house is not good enough really bothers me.

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A landlord should have specific rental criteria that apply to all applicants. This is to avoid charges of discrimination. Some landlords set an amount of income that a person must have in order to rent an apartment of a particular rent -- for example, you must have income of three times the rent. In the case of Section 8 applicants, the rent would not be the total rent for the apartment, but the rent that the tenant is responsible for, which is 30% of their income. Without clear rental criteria, a landlord is open to charges of discrimination. Credit ratings, debts, criminal history, etc., if used, must be used for all applicants whether they are on Section 8 or not. Being on Section 8 is not grounds for refusing to rent, but landlords should use the same criteria for everyone. No landlord has to accept a tenant that doesn't meet the landlord's criteria.

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I would to rent to section 8 people but the state of Arizona can make us land lords wait two months before we get paid. The tenant can move in right away with a deposit only. Where can anyone move without paying a deposit and first month rent?.

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I am a Section 8 tenant in Tallahassee, Florida and my tenant trashed my house to the cost of $5000 plus dollars. She called and texted me every day asking for her $500 deposit. After I informed her that the deposit would not be returned due to the damages she kindly called me several names and concluded by saying that she did nothing more than normal wear and tear.

Her normal wear and tear included:
Broken garage door, refrigerator, vented over the stove microwave, dishwasher and kitchen counter-top
Holes in the walls and doors
Cigarette burns on window sills and carpets
Unknown stains in carpets in every room
Broken toilet in master suite
Broken light fixtures
Broken mirrored sliding closet doors
Unauthorized ADT alarm system installed under her husbands name (BTW no one even knew she had a husband - me or section 8 office)
Unauthorized DirecTV satellite bolted to the roof which caused water damage - also in husbands name
Broken mail box
Broken security lock across front door
Missing screens from every window
Broken kitchen window
Tenant smoked in the house which was not allowed, entire house has strong odor of weed and cigarettes.

Tenant would not return house keys instead left keys in broken mailbox which was placed on the front porch. Called Section 8 office and was told that they could not do anything to assist in getting damage cost from tenant. She now resides in a new place and her rent is yet again completely covered while I am struggling trying to get repairs down and kep my house.

I will NEVER again rent to a Section 8 recipient. It maybe assured money but the amount of damages they due is not worth the risk. I am thinking of creating a website for landlords where we can put a bad tenant in a searchable database for other landlords. I contacted my tenants 5 former landlords and was told she was excellent. I called every month to ask if there was anything that needed to be done. My mistake was I would call her a week in advance to inform her that I would be coming in town to inspect. I should have done surprise inspections.

I HAVE PICTURE OF ALL THE DAMAGE.

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The responses I'm seeing here are rather disturbing... I'm on assistance because my mother just passed away a couple months ago. I'm 20 years old and handicapped, I'm unable to work. I have to get spinal surgery but am waiting until I get settled into my new apartment... If I can EVER find a place that accepts HUD. I'm clean, never received a single complaint from my previous landlords, and I'm well-behaved. I'm all alone now that my mother is gone, I have nobody to turn to for help.

I want to go to have a job and go to college for child psychology, I want to make something of my life and I want to help people. I can't do that if I'm not given a chance.

I'm struggling to stay above homelessness because landlords are biased.
Is it fair? Am I a bad person because I need help? Am I undeserving just because I wasn't born into a good family and into good health?

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