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why won't people accept section 8? Its deffinate rent in their pocket!

It seems like noone wants to accept section 8, I'm not dirty I keep my children and house clean I just don't make enough money to be able to pay my rent without assistance. I don't get it...
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As a single mother who is on Section 8 I'm quite offended by a number of these posts. It's unfair to make such generalizations about a group of people as a whole. It seems like a lot of people make assumptions without even knowing at all how the program works. Now, I'm certainly not an expert, but there are a few things I definitely know.

First of all, if the tenant doesn't pay their portion of the rent, they are out of the program. They cannot continue to receive assistance if they don't hold up their end. Second, there are codes for a reason; they don't want slum lords. The codes are not anything above and beyond what should already be in place for ANY tenant's safety. The inspector who inspects my apt checked to make sure it was electrically and structurally sound, that there was no lead paint, and that there were an adequate number of working fire alarms. The only thing my landlord had to do was replace a fire alarm because the living conditions were already up to par.

I think it's wrong to judge people who receive government assistance unless you know their story personally. Consider this: Someone is a single mother of 1 with no one to ask for help. She can't afford to finish school, so she works full time making $9/hr (min wage is $7.25 I believe). BEFORE taxes that's about $1440/mth. After taxes, prob not more than $1200. In order to work you have to pay for childcare ($550-$1000/mth depending on area). We'll say $700. Rent for a two bedroom apt excluding utilities costs a minimum of $600 for something that is just livable. We're already at negative $100 BEFORE food, vehicle gas, medical, and any other basic bills. Should this person just pitch a tent with their child in an underpass and call it a day?

Things happen in life regardless of whether or not we're ready. I'm very grateful for the help I've received; it has been a lifesaver. I won't need it soon, and I'll be glad to know my taxes could be helping someone else.
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Well let me enlighten you since you are too simple-minded to understand. I am a single mother who works full-time. I also go to school. Oh yeah and I'm a landlord who gets screwed over everytime I rent out my apartments. And maybe you didn't do it but everytime it was someone on assistance. NEVER AGAIN. Guess what, It's NOT PERSONAL, ITS BUSINESS. So next time you wanna go on a rant about someone giving you a break, maybe you should learn to suck it up and get your act together. This is a tough world and landlords aren't all miraculously rich beings. You wanna compare sob stories, I will one up you everytime. Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge landlords and just realize your not the only one struggling, no one has ever helped me pay my rent and I spend my time handling my own business instead of whining and crying about it.
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Did you know that if you move out of your section 8 housing and you owe the landlord for damages you have to sign an agreement with him/her to repay in order for you to keep your section 8. However after you move out and get a good reference from the landlord (he will probably do this because he wants to recover money for the damages), all you have to do is tell section 8 that you are contesting the agreement to repay and you wont have to pay it back, and, you can keep your section 8. Of course the landlord can take you to small claims but hardly anyone does. This happened to me, a tenant caused $30,000 in damages and wouldn't even pay back $1,000 of it to me. Section 8 makes it sound so good if you rent to section 8 but if something goes wrong you are on your own pal, on your own and they wont give you the time of day. Your treated like dirt. So don't wonder to hard why section has a bad rap. Its not such a great deal for the homeowner. I know I sound nasty but I would love to someone like you and hope your make some homeowner very happy he chose you as I'm sure you can.
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I AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT. I'M ON SECTION 8 TO WITH 4 KIDS AND I AM VERY CLEAN AND ALL I HEAR ARE LANDLORDS BASHING SECTION 8 TENANTS AND YES IT IS VERY HARD TO FIND LANDLORDS WHO WILL TAKE SECTION 8 BECAUSE LANDLORDS POST CRAP ONLINE IT'S TERRIBLE.
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I understand your frustration I too have section 8 and I'm clean and take care of my place. I've put in ceiling fans, a chandelier, airconditioner,custom blinds,etc but not everyone is like you and I. I know a guy who owns apartments and from talking to him his tenants dont pay their portions of rent and they abuse his properties, he says he'll never rent to section 8 tenants again. I wish I could find a bigger place but When I see Landlords who do accept it their places dont appeal to me at all, they're usually in a bad area high crime area.
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I am a NJ landlord. This is an interesting topic, as for years I "didn't need to take" section 8, now referred to as "housing vouchers". Once a voucher is obtained by a tenant, they can usually take that voucher and transfer it from one Housing Authority or issuing entity to another one.

It's based on eligibility.

Here's a few takes on this. Again, I'm a NJ landlord (7 units) single family homes. I also write on this topic for RentLaw.com The National Landlord Tenant Guide. Here, there are EXCELLENT resources for landlords on the HQS (Housing Quality Standards) - what is expected of a home. These really aren't anything mind boggling - things a landlord SHOULD do to maintain their home.

So the landlord has to have a section 8 inspector come out and look over the house - make sure things are habitable. They may say you have to paint (even though you might of already did a top job paint with a high quality paint on not a whitewash..). I said fine - I'm not doing it - it's better and nice then my own house. They can find someplace else....

for 20 years I had "regular" tenants. Never a problem with the rent etc. Then all of a sudden, I got hit with late payments etc. I then accepted my first section 8 tenant., 4 kids. The rent was $1550 month, plus they had to pay the utilities. Section 8 payment - $1300. Not bad. Tenant no problem paying. I now have 5 of 7 section 8. By the third of the month, I have around 90% of my rent, my mortgages are now current and my section 8 tenants are good - very good at reminding me of the lease renewal (and inspection again). It makes you a good landlord - if you have good tenants - whether or not they are section 8. Many people here "section 8" and apply a racial profile. Well for me, I showed both african american and white and asian. Those that are with me are all white - some others finding homes elsewhere, some others complained they wanted the whole place carpeted - over new hardwood floors. Some people expect alot for $100 rent
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This is the problem...what difference does it matter how much the tenant pays as long as all the rent is received!Landlords want to take that rent money from section 8 and treat you like a second class citizen because of your economic status!!!It all boils down to discrimination plain and simple!!!
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1st level thing ive read about this in a long time...and FYI alot of section 8 tenants work so that government money is part of their taxes too. There are lowlifes and deadbeats in every category. Thanks david.
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well the rent that you're getting is not 100.00 dollars,that just their half an i also believe if the carpet is dirty would you have want dirty carpet knowing ur kids will sit on the floor an watch t.v.theirs all kind of hiding bugs in dirty carpet,like.mites,bedbugs,etc.
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Sound like "BS" all you care is for the rent. the goverment provides all your needs as long as you follow there rules. your bulldiing bring notting troble loud makers + lazy people +durg dealers Just saying the truth.
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Section 8 is another example of government waste that is ruining our economy by taking money from the producers of our society and giving it to those who have not earned it. If you cannot afford a certain place, look for a creative alternative you can afford, and keep your dignity.
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Your a total idiot, its so sad people like you exist. maybe you haven't experienced enough hardships in your life, maybe you need to. Karma's a #@!&$ , they say. What goes around comes around loser.
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You suck too
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If you want to get into people that have not earned it. I would like to speak for the slaves that were never paid in America. So... who can talk ??
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i am hurt how people act in life these i wish everyone would just sit still for a day with knowing what your going through in life . even though there are some people that dont deserve it . im on it and still have a part time job and im disabled and plus my tow children are my house is always clean and i dont like going out to clubs drink or have friends around me
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Nonsense! This is pure prejudice based on ignorance and profiling! Section 8 is not Gov't waste and it's not ruining the economy. Bloated military spending, wars, market speculation and fraud, globalization and outsourcing have ruined our economy! The politicians in congress who want you to believe that get free housing, free travel, free food, free health care and write off their prostitutes and blow on their expense accounts. They are there to make the laws to suit the oligarchs who ARE ruining the economy. Section 8 is RENTAL ASSISTANCE for those who are needy and disabled. In order to keep this pernicious system going the fats cats need programs like section 8.Everyone has 'earned' section 8 by paying taxes; why not get some of your money back? There are no 'creative alternatives' for people on section 8 only the street and the police who protect only the wealthy will not let them stay on the street! You are a bigoted, ignorant and stupid guy!
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How discouraging and hateful these responses are. Section 8 allows people to be able to afford to live in their community. Instead of paying 80% of their income to rent like i do, those on section 8 pay 30% of their income allowing families to afford crazy stuff like food and clothing.

Most of the people I know on Section 8 are single moms who take care of their kids, hold down jobs and keep their homes clean. I'm not sure why all the haters but I think more landlords need to get involved with Section 8. Your rent is nearly guaranteed and your helping local families afford to live in their community. Don't be afraid.

Also, like anyone else, you can screen your tenant---get references etc...don't shut people out with general assumptions. Most moms care about keeping a roof over their families head and are not going to trash their home.
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Clearly its wrong to judge everyone the same. My husband is an Iraqi Veteran and he was given section 8. I cannot tell you how difficult it has been to find an apt with Section 8. I dont think that it is fair to judge everyone the same because it is not accurate. I am a very clean, quiet person who takes care of all the apartments I have ever lived in prior to having Section 8. I thought having it would be a plus but it is really frustrating and difficult to find a nice place.
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"Most" of section 8 people are dirty!! Yes very secure rent but wont make up for distroying the apt's when there lease is over and there out.
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If they destroy (learn to spell) HUD subsidized property and don't repair damages they lose their section 8 voucher. Don't be so discriminating. I rent through HUD (section 8) and I'm a very clean person thank you. Not goverment waste. It helps the poor, disabled and the elderly which someday you may experience.
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My gf had section eight for ever. Her landlord loved her. When I found out about this section eight stuff, I bought a house and became her landlord.. Working out pretty good for us.. About to get another..
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Jay, I believe it's spelled they're.
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"their" idiot, want to shine?
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Dear Jay Stone,
It's very doleful to see such an ignorant person like yourself.
I understand you quoted "most" but seriously?
If you have this aspect of people that are in section 8,
not every person that you encounter has the same background and it's not their fault. I state this because I apply to this. I live out of section 8 and have been for some years. Now it's not because like some, ignorant people, have said in here that I'm dirty, lazy, on drugs or anything like that; which I hope that none of you guys find yourself on a situation of a person that needs this
help. I have been in section 8 and because of it I have been able to provide my children a better life and a future. Have you ever thought that maybe those whom their parents that had or are in section 8, are the ones that could be saving your life because we have been able to provide them with a carrier? I I'm very thankful
for the help that I get from section 8 and also to tax payers that
are helping and not acting like they will never need anything from anybody.
So Jay, I you believe that it's not fair that you blame the ones that don't take care of their households with the ones that actually try their best to take care of the households. We shouldn't get blamed for the irresponsible ones! It's not our fault that the landlords don't pay close attention to whom they rent to. I have been chosen over people that just because they know someone else they get the place. It's sad to see this but what's the worse is that they make the mistakes on choosing the wrong ones and we get all pointed for the ones that made the mistakes!
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It doesn't matter section 8 or not tenants who are not on section 8 can destroy a home in a matter of minutes. It's a win win situation
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Although there are a good number of people who respect property, and several with jobs (Working Section 8 clients), the number of persons causing trouble have made many landlords balk at the idea of accepting the program. The program can drop a client, then, if they can't afford the rent, it can take MONTHS for the landlord to have them removed from the property.

The courts favor tenants in most cases, and, understandably, wish to afford them enough time to find alternate living arrangements. Unfortunately, many landlords cannot afford to be without this income during that time. Just imagine if you had to take a pay cut for 3 to 6 months!
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If you dont pay your portion of the rent you are in violation of the lease, section 8 requires a 1yr lease, so then the tenant would be subject to eviction just like any one who didnt pay their rent. The section 8 program will not sign another lease with a renter if they owe past due rent to a landlord, untill it is paid in full, so a person would lose their rental assistance, and the waiting lists( if accepting names)takes 2-3 years AT LEAST to get on the program. There is no guaranty that anyone wont lose their job or get sick be in an accident or die, etc... so when I hear a landlord saying that a section 8 tenant is a bad risk, it is obviously discrimination of someone just because they needed help due to a financial hardship.
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It is really sad when people think it is okay to discriminate against someone because they happen to be of low income status. No one knows why or how they may have come into such a situation nor do they know the issues that surround such a circumstance. This is just so sad to hear ignorant people make such comments as such as All Section 8 people are bums who do not pay their rent. Nothing can be further from the truth. People come in all shapes, sizes, colors etc. This also includes "characters", NOT ALL PEOPLE who happen to qualify for a low income subsidy is low class. Many are simply at a financial disadvantage. There are many situations that people are forced into because life happens, some are disabled, some are single parents (maybe the death of a spouse left them in such a position). Some may have suddenly become ill and cannot work any longer, who knows what their situation. Because a person has a low income does not mean that they do not take a shower or a bath, does not mean they do not launder their clothes, does not mean they do not comb their hair or brush their teeth, does not mean they take or sell drugs, does not mean they do not take care of their children, does not mean they cannot read or write, does not mean that they do not want anything better for themselves, many still go to school and work full time jobs in order to survive for themselves and their families, how dare such ignorant comments. Your comments simply tell us all how ignorant you are. You have no concept of the fact that the lack of money does not make the character of a person. For all the people who abuse the privilege of qualifying for Section 8, there are twice as many who are NOT abusing the privilege and would be a blessing for any perspective renter. My best advice to those who feel that all section 8 people are bums need to educate themselves, but most of all gain some "common sense". Common Sense goes a long way and keeps you from opening your mouth and demonstrating how ignorant you are. * Ignorant People never feel any sense of compassion or empathy until they are the ones walking in the other person's shoes, then they are the biggest cry babies of all.
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I'm a Section 8 recipient myself and I'm sorry to say that the majority of the hate here comments have some truth to them. I unknowingly moved into a Individually Owned Condo complex (ie. all the units were sold and are not run by a central office) that is almost entirely all Section 8. I have to say. . . I hate it here. I second the noise, the smoking, the trash and just the other day grafiti started showing up in this complex. The parents here are lousy and don't know how to keep a leash on their kids. Young thugs are popping up everywhere. I smell marijuana all over the place, I have people trying to stare me down. I thought I moved out of the ghetto only to move back into a ghetto complex in a choice community. I can see why some landlords raise the rent to ridiculous levels only expecting Section 8 recipients, because no one would pay for such low quality housing if its coming out of their own pocket.

I've spoken to four different landlords (those who were willing to talk) and they all had similar issues. Complaints from neighbors for the noise, bringing the wrong element to the communities, vandalism, and what most stood out was that tenants damage the units then expect to get their entire deposit back and a good number become belligerent and try to sue. This is what stood out from the conversations I've had with landlords and property management companies. It makes sense because who would not like to have guaranteed money from the government? unless the negatives far outweigh the positives. . .which is valid in this case.

However; thanks to the program I switched from one class a semester to 5 classes and have only one year left to transfer to a University and one year there to get my bachelors and get out of needing the program. My wife's income is enough to sustain us at this level, but honestly. . . I'd rather pay $1500 rent out of my own pocket then live as neighbors to other S8 recipients and pay only $500.

I speak from experience, but I apologize if I offended anyone. And now to keep searching for a home that would accept my voucher ;)

~Omar (Majoring in Biomedical Engineering Pre-Med, Section 8 Recipient for 11 months)
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OMG wow really .Just because you have sec 8 does not mean that you r going to be loud or trashy are you serious. For ever state it's different I had to go through classes to get it up there they check your background they look at you as a person how you use to pay your rent do u have eviction. If you have had problems you don't get sec 8 period .people are people there will always be those loud nasty people sec 8 or not.what it is is that landlords know they have to be up 2 code with everything. If they fail they get reported and we need to keep looking I'm a single mom with 3 kids and temp custody of my sister kid and trying to go to school. So think before u speak. We get annual walk through we have to keep up to the codes.its the landlords that are bums
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Although Section 8 is guaranteed payment from the government, it's not guaranteed that the tenant will pay their portion of the rent. Also, there are lots of codes and standards that the home must meet in order for the landlord to list the home on Section 8's approved list. If the landlord has to constantly make repairs to keep the house up to code, it may make him hesitant to accept Section 8. You can avoid this one way, by finding a home on Section 8 that totally covers the rent without any overages/differences you have to pay and make a separate agreement/lease amendment to repair any damages you or your kids make to the home not considered normal wear and tear that the landlord is responsible for repairing.
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I am a section 8 client and in my area and in order to rent with out help I have to make 3 times and some applications say 4 times the rent. This is for places such as apts, duplexes and single family dwellings. Getting creative when you make less than $3,000 a month. What does "looking for a creative solution" @Rick Grubbs mean, is that being dishonest? Or does that mean work 3 jobs, or wait I know it must mean, "you should of not had kids you cannot afford"! To late I have the kids and guess what I don't make $8,500 a month and frankly I don't know anyone else that does in this area.

I am stuck between a rock and a hard spot cannot afford to rent on my own and I cannot find one homeowner to take section 8 in this area. It is so sad that owners are so selfish, I have an excellent rental history etc. I currently have been looking in the bay area for 7 months and have realized how these owners do not care, have no heart. What is even funny is that when the economy was failing these homeowners used to say section 8 helped them avoid foreclosure. Now that the economy is turning for the better these Landlords just turn their nose's up at the program using the sxcuse such as "Section 8 tenants are dirty". FYI 80% of section 8 clients due spoil it for the rest of these participants. But you will find some beautiful wonderful people that are in awful predicaments.

You now back in the 1970's a person making minimum wage could afford to buy a home and a car. The economy has turned all the owners of homes into greedy #@!&$%*#.

We that struggle maybe have a good reason for our struggle, example my daughter got cancer. God forbid that I quit my job to help her get through 3 years of treatments and what a menace I am to society; to actually have to rely on a program designed to help people like me. I hope not one of you have to go through the struggles I have had to go through.

I feel for the section 8 recipients I know while working for section 8 I have heard horror stories I know they need this program
and I am so supportive of this program. I see homeless people daily and they may never have a warm bed to crawl into at night. Be thankful you have what you have and don't kick a man while he is down.
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Although Section 8 is guaranteed payment from the government, it's not guaranteed that the tenant will pay their portion of the rent. Also, there are lots of codes and standards that the home must meet in order for the landlord to list the home on Section 8's approved list. If the landlord has to constantly make repairs to keep the house up to code, it may make him hesitant to accept Section 8. You can avoid this one way, by finding a home on Section 8 that totally covers the rent without any overages/differences you have to pay and make a separate agreement/lease amendment to repair any damages you or your kids make to the home not considered normal wear and tear that the landlord is responsible for repairing.
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Just to be honest,I have never had section 8, and I know for a fact I am a lousy tenate. I move around alot from "hood" to "hood". my rent ranges from $750-850/mo. I rarely pay on time. In fact, one year it was so bad, my landlord evicted me about 5 times in one year. Only because I pay everything in full, court cost and all just before the 10th day of the judgement to evict. As long as you pay before the 10th day they can not evict you. But of course by that time, now the next months rent is late. But lucky for me they have to wait until the 5th of the month before they can charge another late fee and demand their rent. Then they have 10 days or so from then to file an eviction case, a court date will be set about 10 days later, then 10 days from the court date before they can make me leave. I couldnt help it. If I had section 8 I wouldnt have to struggle so hard. But that is not the end of my pathedic story either. I have 3 kids and I suffer from depression. I have a couple of bad habits, but the worst is my out right laziness. Me and them darn kids are lazy. We had a bad problem with roaches that seem to keep following me to every home I go to. I try to get my kids to clean up, but with me as the example, what can I really expect? Anyway, my mom always complains to me that if I lived in a neighborhood that accepts section 8/public housing that I would never get away with living like this because they would do routine expections to make sure I keep my house in order. My last landlord sold my house midway through my first year lease. The new landlord wanted payments mailed to him and I never had the chance to meet him in person. I paid my rent on time the majority of this year. The landlord thought I was the best tenate. That is until I moved out and they saw the condition. I really need section 8 to help me do things the right way. For one, if I can get help with my rent, I can afford to buy new furniture that is not infested. I want to end here saying The biggest problem I see with all the labeling of people on section 8 is that people who have to pay their full rent out of pocket with no unk Sam to help, are jeolous!(.) I know I am.

Bytheway: Although I am a lazy bumb and will admit it, I want to say I hold down 2 jobs, and I own a car(Its a mess too). Only a handfull of people know how I live, but the rest of the world would be suprised! I do not carry myself that way in the spotlight.
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Now I understand why there will be only slum lords accepting section 8 tenants. From my first hand experience all the rumors are true. I was living in my wonderful house for 7 years as a single my. I got married and another single mom wanted to rent the house from me. She is on section 8 and that should of made me wary from the beginning.

1. miss-information: the person will not lose section 8 from destroying your property. Once you can finally get them out of your house and it will be completely difficult they can continue receiving section 8 on the next property.

and don't forget if the person does damages to your house you as the landlord will be required to fix these damages to continue collection rent from section 8.

Any good property owned planning on renting to section 8. There is a saying, no good deed goes unpunished. Well guess what is it completely true when it comes to renting to these people.

not worth your piece of mind or the upkeep of your property.
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Blaming individuals for taking advantage of section 8 benefits is misdirected. Just as you wouldn't blame your Rottweiler for eating the raw t-bone you left on your coffee table while you worked all day, you can't fault people for taking whatever goodies are left for them by our politicians. You want someone to blame, blame those who put laws like this into place.

How did people live before section 8? Were they living under overpasses? In cardboard boxes? No. They had family and charity. And that would last only long enough for those in need to get back on their feet.

Instead, today, we have people who've been on this kind of assistance THEIR ENTIRE LIVES. Again, don't fault them. They get to sit at home, smoking weed, drinking, playing x-box with their kids/friends, while the rest of us go out an work to pay the bills. Yes, there are many who NEED this help, but make no mistake - for the vast majority, it is a conscious, deliberate lifestyle choice.

I have several properties, and would rather they go into foreclosure than promote this kind of 'safety net' that for too many has turned into a hammock.
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iam in section 8 for ten years i never pay late have good landlord irst the landlored did know how the program work when he get his money each time first of the month from me and housing he is happy he never want to lose me iwant to move to another state ihope find out same landlord thank you
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I am sure there are some very decent people using Section 8 vouchers, but, they are in a very small minority. I think most people understand that responsible people can have financial hardships that are not really due to their making.
The problem with Section 8 renters is that the majority are single mothers that keep having children they cannot support. This is not a financial hardship they had no control over. This was a choice. Accidents do happen but but not accidental when keeps happening over and over. Responsible women do not keep having children with different men that are not a part of the children's life. This is a lifestyle and the women and men keep doing so as they know no matter how many children they have, the taxpayers are going to be stuck paying for them in the form of food, insurance, and housing.
The single mother as a victim is mainly a load of garbage. The parents had a choice of getting an education before they had children but chose not to do so. They feel entitled to free everything and in the best neighborhoods simply due to the fact that they had children.
What about the people that go to school for years, work hard and save for years to buy a home? They achieve this and then get stuck living next to section 8 renters, most of whom are incredibly undesirable neighbors. An increase in crime and lowered property values is what happens most of the time.
Section 8 should only be for elderly and disabled persons, not for people that feel entitled to the American dream by having tons of children they are unable to support.
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Yes people are wrong for passing judgment on section 8 tenants. Please ask yourself this question, why do people pass judgment on section 8 tenants. I'm not the one to pass judgment I use to be for section 8 because there are people that can use it. At the same I struggled for years I worked 3 jobs at on point in life but dug myself out of that hole I was stuck in. You may ask how is that possible. The answer is simple you do what you have to do. A good majority is on section 8 because they are lazy and don't want to work. Section 8 was built to better yourself and to get off of it asap but people are not doing that. School is free for section 8 people but how many actually take the the time to take advantage of that. There is a small percentage that does. I have section 8 neighbors and they are the most inconsiderable neighbors ever. They are loud and they deal drugs and they don't care. Is this the type of people you want to live next to? I looked up there history and they are from the projects. In live in a nice neighborhood but when they have there cook outs it turns into a gangsta party with too thy loud rap music. As a parent I don't want my kid thinking that's normal because its not. I myself listen to rap but I don't blast my music. Also american is in enough debt america has to pay interest for every dollar they borrowed. Shouldn't our tax dollars be going towards that so america can get out of debt. The more our tax dollars go towards anything else besides clearing Americas debt the worse off we are. We will never be able to retire while section 8 people work part time and relax. Our children's children will never retire. We will be slaves to debt. Aventually section 8 will end but by that time it will be too late. America by that time will crumble and what will happen to us when that day comes. Will america be the land of the free because were not really free we think we are.
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I'm on Section 8, and I can say with complete certainty that my family are the best tenants that this landlord, property, etc, have ever had.

See, we're not all bad.
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