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HELP!!! I just confirmed that I have been scammed for 3K deposit+1st month rent through a Hawaii condo listing on the Hot Pads site.
Unfortunately, I did W.U. the money. Is there anything I can d...

o to get my money back or is this simply a loss?
Additionally, who can I speak to on Hotpads to ensure this sociopath doesn't scam anyone else?
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Colleen Corgan
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Hello Dee,

You can forward the address to clientservices@hotpads.com and we will remove and report the scammer. You can also file a report with the police and we will work with them in any way we can. You can learn more about detecting and reporting scams here: http://hotpads.com/pages/scams.htm

We remind everyone to NEVER wire money via western union as no legitimate property manager will ever ask you to do that.
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Hello Dee, I think we were scammed also...What listing was it and was the rental person's name Beverly Knight????

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Is there anything hotpads can do to help all of us. It sounds like we were all taken by the same person. There are actually several complaints I've read that sound like my situation and they go back to a year ago. Please respond. I want to catch who is doing this. I just need some help getting everything started.

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Ok, so I have a scammer on the hook. My guess is that Hotpads (or any other listing site) has no real interest in weeding these people out (as proven by the fact that 2 of 2 contacts I made are both the same scammer). First, he calls himself "Merville" and his associate is called Soloman Friedman (who the listing is under but is "on assignment" and cannot assist me in my search. The Listing is 1910 Ala Moana Blvd (but 223 Saratoga is the same format). He gave me a mobile number (916)546-3562. He says:

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"I understand your point in wanting to view.There are no repairs or problems with the unit and all that needs to be done is cleaning and vacumming as the unit is in great condition and was only redone in Feb 2012.Under law only the lease contract is what is singularly required to seal a tenant and landlord agreement and i will only accept a bank to bank transfer for deposit for proper records and so i can receipt it.Like i told you i am presently handling a construction project and i dont think that there is any problem here with my terms.The apartment is exactly as it is on the pics and you have the necessary info.This apartment speaks for itself and to get a tenant is a minor detail and i have only been forthright and upfront with you about the situation.

As i stated before there is a couple there who will leave in the next few days and i am not in the mind to send anyone over there afterall they will be fully out of there on the 30th which is just days from now and i will be avaliable to you the very next day.The reason i agreed to extend their stay until the 30th when they fly out is because the wife has been ill and under care and under such circumstances i'd rather they have their peace.I had a potential tenant go over there the other day and i asked him to talk to the couple so he could have a view and from the information i received he went there as if i had given him the run of the place and there was some resultant unpleasantness and i wont have this happen again for any reason.Like i was informed after that episode it is very clear that the couple have until the 30th before their rent expires.The couple were not at all happy and it is my decision to respect the tenancy agreement especially with the present circumstances of the couple.I would do exactly the same if it were you in the place


I have to state quite clearly to you that i cannot guarantee to you that this apartment will be available in the next few days so its up to you if you really want to make this reservation and in all honesty i cannot guarantee this apartment will be available much later than the beginning of next week.I will send you the lease contract as well as bank payment details if you desire to lock this down."

So let's see what you do about it, Hotpads, my guess- nothing- if that turns out to be the case- I'll let the world know (big deal, right? Because the real scammers are you Listing Sites).

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Aloha,
Well first of all dont ever i repeat Ever give anyone money without actually seeing the listing in person. Not just outside or a similar unit, but the actaull listing. Second dont wire money thats not a good idead at all. Because if your wiring money then that probley means you are located somewhere else which means you probley havent seen the place in person. I have found there to be alot of scammers now online. So always do a lil research on the listing, the company posting the ad, and if it sounds to good to be true it probley is. last i would recomend you get intouch with a company called ACTION LINE! Its a program one of our news channels provide for consumer complaints of anykind! They will look into your complaint and get to bottom of it if your complaint is found tobe legit. Hopethis helped.

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Thanks Colleen. I have reported this matter to consumer fraud agencies and local authorities. I love Hotpads.com and have had great successes in the past. However, it is unfortunate when things like this occur. I certainly hope your team blocks this listing and the "scamming" agent from posting on the Hotpads site in the future; preventing futher victimization of other consumers.

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Hi. I found your question and am wondering what happened after that. Did anybody help you? Could you get your money back? Has the police caught anyone?
I'm also currently in trouble, scam for the rental condo in Hawaii. I sent the money via wire transfer, not W.U. But police and fraud agency aren't helpful for me so far... I'm at a loss.
If you have any advice, I'd be very appreciated. Thank you...

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I also was taken for 3K. For an apt. in Hawaii. Wouldnt surprise me if it was the exact same listing. Police and others haven't been helpful. However, if we could all come together I'm sure 3 complaints and 9K in losses would get some people moving. It would be great if Hotpads.com could do something to get all of us together to make a case! I am willing to work with anyone. Just contact me.

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People have tried to scam me three times for condos in Hawaii. It seems to be the new Nigerian prince scheme. Luckily for me I did not send any money but I still have the apartment details and the bank accounts where they wanted me to send the money if it would help you guys. There is a place at 223 Saratoga rd that I am looking at right now and I am a little worried. I would have liked to get a place before I arrived but it seems almost impossible.
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Eric: I just got approved for 223 Saratoga rd, but, I feel it is a scam as well, they wanted me to wire money into the landlords account, I searched the "landlords" address and found it to be a virtual office, internet based business. I am looking to relocate next week and wanted to have a "sure" thing, but, it doesn't look good.

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Ok after i read all of this, if you find it helpful, I understand ERIC said that he still has the account they ask to have the money transferred to. I think someone putting up these scam open up a pre-paid card that you can buy at any shopping store such as walmart or walgreens, these certain cards allow money transfers. You guys need to be careful, next time you should get the individuals cell number, besides email, and have a face to face consulting, also a view of the place your choosing to lease, rent, etc. A lot of people are coming down here from the mainland and are pulling these type of schemes.

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I'm sorry you lost your money. I don't think you can get it back but I'm not totally sure. A few years ago I stupidly WU about $675 to China for a nice computer; I was hoping to go into business selling these computers. But the guy never sent the computer and I lost that money.

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