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My husband had a 3rd degree csc felony 17 years ago. Are there any places that would take into account how long ago it was and be more lenient on the application?

The crime was so non threatening, but it still registers every year on an offender list. Are there any places that are decent that might look deeper into the real person instead of just whats on the paper? I understand the neighbors might have a concern, but there could be murders living next to them and they would never know...
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D Jones
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I wouldn't consider 3rd degree Criminal Sexual Conduct "SO NON THREATENING" when these are the considerations for that felony. And more than likely it was dropped from a lesser charge...I wouldn't want him in my neighborhood even 17 years later...

A. 3rd degree CSC requires proof of "sexual penetration" and one or more of the following elements:

1. Victim is under 13, and defendant is less than 3 years older.

2. Victim is 13, 14, or 15, and
a. defendant is 2 years older

3. Victim is 16 or 17, and

a. defendant has Significant Relationship to victim; or
b. defendant is in Position of Authority over victim, and defendant is over 4 years older, and uses that position so victim will submit; or
c. defendant has Significant Relationship to victim, and:

i. uses force or coercion
ii. uses or threatens use of real or fake weapon,
iii. causes victim reasonable fear of imminent great bodily harm.
iv. causes personal injury to the victim, or
v. there are multiple sexual acts committed over an extended time.

4. Defendant uses force or coercion.

5. Defendant knows or has reason to know victim is:

a. mentally impaired
b. mentally incapacitated, or
c. physically helpless.

6. Defendant is aided or abetted by accomplices, and:

a. an accomplice uses force or coercion, or
b. an accomplice uses or threatens the use of a real or fake dangerous weapon.

RAPES IN A THERAPEUTIC SETTING

1. Defendant is a psychotherapist, and

a. victim is a patient, and the act occurs during a therapy session; or
b. victim is a patient or former patient, and the victim is emotionally dependent on defendant; or
c. victim is a patient or former patient, and the act results from a therapeutic deception.

2. The defendant is a health care professional, and the act occurs by means of false representation that it is for a bona fide medical purpose.
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you need to study the law on this you have the ages wrong! And csc in the 3rd is not a violent act it is mutual! They couldn't get my son on it so they got him with attempted csc in the 3rd read my reply below it will give the ages they were it is totally ridiculous!

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violet_flower
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As a mother for young kid I can not accept or trust those kind of neighbors around my kids at all, so I support that law to protect us and our kids from such kind of crimes and criminals like that.
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hummingbird baby
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As a mother of a young child you should check into the law before making judgement. My son was convicted of an attempted csc in the 3rd he was just 1 month 18 she was 3 weeks shy of being 16! This has ruined his life and the law on this is made incompetently! This should of never happened and our law makers need to make a much closer look at the affect their ignorance is doing to our youngsters what a waste of tax payers money and my sons life!!!

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hummingbird baby
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By the way csc in the third is not forced it is mutual but one is to young by law whether sexually active with others or not!

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Raquel Espejo
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I'm not sure of the differences in degrees of felonies, but I think there is some general ways you can be more successful in finding an apartment

- Don't lie if they ask you about felonies. It's so easy to do a criminal background check and if they find out you were lying after you moved in, they can evict you. Plus, just explain the situation on the application, say it was 17 years ago, etc

- Get a bunch of references from your employers, past landlords, anybody with a solid reputation. I don't konw if you still would have a parole officer or anything, but if you do, then get him to write one too

17 years ago is a long time so I think you shouldn't have as much of an issue as someone who recently had a felony conviction. If you can't rent at an apartment complex, you can try private landlords who are just renting otu their house or an apartment in their house. They probably don't have the same rules na guidelines as the larger guys

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Brandon Wofford
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If he's 18 and has sex with a 16 year old.. That's a 3rd degree criminal sexual conduct. Which isn't really bad. But it can go as far as forcibly raping a 13 year old. So it really depends on what it was. And if his record is clean for 17 years, depending on the actual crime, you can probably talk it out with the land lord.

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Matt Gillen
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It is part of the witch hunt, brought on by some of the paranoid people like some posting here. Somehow people make the jump from a person doing something at some point, whatever it was, to he or she is going to do that to me or my family or whatever which is not fair, and not accurate. The fact of the matter is that over 98% of all sex crimes committed are done so by someone who at the time did not have a sex crime on their record (like the paranoid people posting here, or so they would want us to think...). Further, this is a class of crime that has an extremely high rate if recidivism... A 2002 study by the United States Department of Justice indicated that recidivism rates among sex offenders was 5.3 percent; that is, about 1 in 19 of released sex offenders were later arrested for another sex crime. The same study mentioned that 68 percent of released non-sex offenders were rearrested for any crime (both sex and non-sex offenses), while 43 percent of the released sex offenders were rearrested for any crime (and 24 percent re-convicted). This is even higher among those undergoing solid treatment and with instances of criminal behavior, as opposed to patterns of behavior, which is why it is now under 4%. If the landlord is some company you are probably out of luck. If the landlord is person, with a brain, you might be ok. I would be perfectly fine with your husband as a roommate or neighbor. I would be more concerned with the paranoid people with their undergarments in a bunch about stuff they know nothing about, as they are probably more likely to flake out at some point and be a bad neighbor.

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